Comments on: Infernal Variations: The Children of the Hellrock

By: Andy

Andy — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:43:54 +0000

Quite fun. I really like the healing surge ability, there’s a heavy element of “cool” to it. Being able to drop healing surges left and right against the right enemy? That’s fun. Not to mention, it’s limited in scope, so it’s not infinitely useful. The encounter ability is nice, too, and its lower usability is a good offset to the potential power of Child of the Hellrock.

By: Zak Arntson

Zak Arntson — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:40:22 +0000

Here’s my response to quill-haters: , you can take it or leave it.

By: Michael Erb

Michael Erb — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:37:54 +0000

But… I love the quills…

By: Children of the Hellrock, Part 2: Feats - At Will

Children of the Hellrock, Part 2: Feats - At Will — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:36:26 +0000

[...] introduced my variation on the duergar, the Hellrock clan, a little bit ago. They’re basically duergar sans the quills who have [...]

By: ethan

ethan — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:46:54 +0000

I’m surprised that Wizards deviated so far from the obvious visions so many of us had of the Duergar. This sounds a whole lot more like an infernal dwarf than an evil, bipedal porcupine.

I agree with @kingworks that there should be an infernal template that can be used to create a demonic or devilish version of a creature. I know they were trying to use the quills to be different, but I really don’t mind if all my infernal creatures have horns and a tail.

By: aword

aword — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:08:22 +0000

I’m glad the quils are gone but that encounter power is only useful to a few classes. I’d retool that myself. Otherwise, this is the duegar I prefer to see.

By: gamefiend

gamefiend — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:00:29 +0000

Glad you guys like.

@Ishi doh. I thought that I had caught this! I’ll fix.

@Jackofhearts Oooh. Well then you’ll like the feats and paragon path for the hellrock when it comes out.

@kingworks an infernal template would be nice, though I like a holistic approach to tweaking the subspecies. The shadar-kai don’t at all feel like generic shadow-humans…they feel like their own thing.

By: kingworks

kingworks — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:50:37 +0000

Pretty cool.

I definitely agree that the quills are lame. I can only assume that the writers were trying to think of ways to show traces of infernal dabbling without using horns (because they already gave them to Tieflings).

Really, though, they could’ve had an entire infernal subspecies/template for any race, instead of making up a ‘new’ races like the Duergar (or Spriggans or Shadar-kai, etc.)

By: JackOfHearts

JackOfHearts — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:24:57 +0000

I like this race much better. I have a place for them coming up in my game right now actually. I’ll have to convert them to monsters but they definitely have a good flavor to them.

In fact, one of my players just decided to play a warforged created by a Duergar and I wasn’t sure how I was going to work all of that in. Nice timing!

By: Ishi

Ishi — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:04:14 +0000

You can’t use immediate interrupts on your turn. Make it a free action with a trigger.