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[...] up is an interesting discussion on the 4e D&D paladin’s divine challenge at the At Will site. I am not sure why they feel the mark needs a tweek, I think it is the best mark in the game [...]

By: gamefiend

gamefiend — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 00:59:13 +0000

@wimwick thus far, thumbs up on the implement. It gives the Holy Symbol something to do while not cranking the damage through the roof. I’ll post more updates as it goes.

@Donny_The_DM encounter? that’s really interesting. I may try that myself one day soon. I’ll be sure to post results when I do.

@Tman thanks for visiting! Yeah, the swordmage mechanic was what we didn’t want, so we had to get it into play to see that we made that exact thing in different form.

@kaeosdad -brutality, eh? We were playing this way pretty much (we halved PC HP instead of upping damage) –it is indeed brutal, especially for me, who enjoys playing glass cannon types. The last game I played my drow tempest fighter and got hammered. It’s exciting, for sure. I feel that it would be an interesting way to do something like a Dark Sun campaign, simulating it’s lethality.

@kingworks the Censure of Pursuit is what your thinking of, and yeah, that’s essentially it. your oath of enmity target runs away, and you get extra bonuses against it for running.

By: kingworks

kingworks — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 03:51:46 +0000

I’m away from my books ATM, but doesn’t the Avenger have a power that damages a marked target when it either moves away or attacks the Avenger that marked it?

By: kaeosdad

kaeosdad — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 02:06:17 +0000

It was worth a shot! House rules are great. For my new 4e campaign I’m trying the half the monsters HP and double their damage dice thing. I call it brutality!!!

By: TMan

TMan — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:41:23 +0000

If you want a character which can ‘mark’ a target and then move away, try a Swordmage from Forgotten Realms Players Guide. It is specifically intended to allow the PC to move around and one of my players does this to great effect.

I can’t wait until they are high enough level for the monsters to just ignore the effect (in his case, the first 10 points of damage the marked monster does to a target other than the marker are ignored by the target).

By: Donny_the_DM

Donny_the_DM — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:19:16 +0000

The rules are meant to be tinkered with. Nobody is laughing at you, for if they were, the lordly title of “King Prick of the Ballsackians” would be rightly earned.

We tweaked most magical items to have encounter powers instead of dailies, and it has made a big dfference – fun wise.

You’re doing it right

By: Wimwick

Wimwick — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:37:23 +0000

I’ve been wondering when I’d see feedback on this house rule you created. Ameron plays a paladin in our regular game and we were both interested in seeing the results. When I read your first post I thought it looked a little too powerfull and it seems that you’ve reached that conclusion through some good playtesting.

I like the idea of adding the implement enhancement as a bonus to damage. This doesn’t seem too overpowering at all. Let us know how it goes, as I’m always interested in hearing how different house rules effect the gaming experience.